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  1. Jenn (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2004 @ 5:32 pm

    I’m from Orlando, FL, and voted for Kerry. This is too funny!! I did say if BUSH won I would move to Canada.

  2. Joe (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2004 @ 9:51 pm

    I’m considering the move as well.

  3. Melissa (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:13 am

    My mom called to ask if I was packing for a move to Canada. So where do we sign up?

  4. a canadian (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 10:54 am

    i’m all for it, but the country should remain as “canada” and the former us states should be designated as territories (like the yukon, nwt, and nunavut). i think the former americans should have to prove their ability to govern themselves in a civilized manner before being given their own provincial governments.

  5. Rick (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 2:10 pm

    I understand that this is a bit tongue in cheek. My question is:

    Why the contempt for people that believe in Jesus? (there’s alot of it on the internets :-))

    If all of the red states were wiccans, druids or atheists, you guys would be celebrating their “spirituality” (or right to lack of it). The minute someone identifies themself as a Christian, or admits to a belief in God or Jesus, they are ridiculed.

    I think that in order to be successful, the Democrats will need the votes of ALOT of the Christians. Ridiculing their belief system won’t exactly endear them to your cause.

    Just an observation.

  6. Sean Bonner (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 2:30 pm

    Rick – it’s because most of the world dosen’t car who you believe in, and think it’s ammusing that the US is so quick to talk about religious extremeists in the middle east when it’s perfectly clear to the rest of the world that a good chunk of the US is very extreme about it’s Jesus love. It’s not important who, it’s how much that is the issue.

  7. Rick (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 4:09 pm

    I don’t think that point is valid. Most of the world doesn’t care if you’re gay or a minority either, but a great many people in the US and around the world use those tags to distinguish themselves as different and to, in many cases position themselves for some type of entitlement.

    Tell me one thing. How is being a Christian negative? Why is the fact that “there is so much of it” a problem to the left and a target of derision and ridicule?

    I have Christian friends that are liberal. Its a great way to demonstrate being the party of tolerance by showing a basic misunderstanding of a large demographic of the US. It points to a contrived elitism, among a core group of people, that all meet together, talk together and live together and be happy in their group. The minute a diverse opinion is introduced, instead of being confronted, and discussed, and common ground identified, it is ridiculed and called names. And the entire time the Republicans sweep the elections (using the word sweep loosely but you get the point). It just seems narrowminded and hypocritical to me. Not to mention a tad immature.

  8. Sean Bonner (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 5:28 pm

    Rick you are jumping to way too many conclutions here. Simmer down now. 95% of Americans believe in some kind of god, and 85% of those think that god is your boy Jesus so making statements that allude to “the left” not beliveing in Jesus and then pointing out that you even know some liberals who are Christian is pointless. Most Americans belive in Jesus so therefor most liberals do too.

    The thing here is that Americans wave that flag around so much that it becomes an object of riducule. That’s the way the world works. It could be anything. If the country was always talking about the my dog and the president was always making references to my dog you can sure as shit bet there would be graphics on the interweb making fun of my dog. It’s a joke. Get over it.

    I have to say your tone is very disturbing, you come in here throwing around all kinds of stereotypes and complete BS talking about the left this and liberals that and then say other people are “narrowminded and hypocritical”? Look in a mirror kid.

  9. Morgen (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 5:47 pm

    I agree with Rick 100%. Jesus was a republican too, because the republicans are very friendly and want to help all people everywhere, just like Jesus! Jesus never lies either, just like the republicans!

    Jesus helps me decide things everyday. For example, when I just asked him if I should post comments here to help my fellow Christian (Rick), Jesus was like “Hell yes! You get up in that bitch and RULE!!”

    Rick, I agree with you that there is a double standard. When people come over to my desk at work and see my eleven framed photos of Jesus (one is Mary with Black Jesus), they might snicker, they might tease, but I know that they’re the ones who are wrong! We’ll see when we’re all gone and Rick and I are in heaven and you are suffering in a firey hell for eternity!!!!

  10. sonia (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 6:08 pm

    wow. I missed a lot slaving away at work.

    ok, let me roll up my sleeves.

    I don’t care if you believe in Jesus or your dog. What bothers me is when voters (and the President) make political decisions based on their religious beliefs. The separation between church and state is narrowing and it’s incredibly frightening. We should not be invading countries under the pretense that we are fighting terrorism when what we are really doing is being agressive and violent missionaries.

  11. Rick (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 6:10 pm

    Tone? Thats funny. I just make observations that are too close to the truth. I never said the left didn’t believe in God. Reread if you need to. Knee jerk responses without reading for comprehension make for ineffective discourse. Again, to be clear, my point was that since many on the left DO believe in Jesus, it might behoove some of the more vocal people on the left to lighten up ridiculing their religion. You know, since they need their vote. Thats all.

    My *tone* hasn’t changed, my observations have only been answered by accusations of sterotyping and accusations of saying things I never said. And the “your boy Jesus” comment? It’s comical that even in response to questions I have about why some on the left deride religion, you have to use it to try to make your point. Or take a jab, or whatever that was.

    I “came in here” to ask a question. One which still stands. If this isn’t a public forum for discussion then I will apologize and move on my way.

    Also I am not sure how waving the flag around too much makes it an object of ridicule. By who? Maybe being the freest, strongest, most prosperous country in the world makes us an object of ridicule, but it doesn’t change the inherent value of those characteristics. We are envied. We are attacked because of the things in this country and our people that make us great.

    Again – I think deriding another persons belief system in order to bolster your own views is immature and hypocritical. Look in a mirror? Again, read for comprehension. Ask youself, is this immature and hypocritical? If you answer yourself no, then please tell me why, that is all I am asking.

    Until people start *talking* about these kinds of things nothing will change.

  12. Sean Bonner (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 6:32 pm

    Rick, honestly, I don’t even know what you are talking about anymore.

  13. Rick (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 6:55 pm


    I understand that you don’t from your previous reply.

    I was asking why all the derision aimed at religion. And for Morgen…thats funny dude, read this slowly again, for comprehension…I never said whether or not I believed in Jesus. It isn’t relevant to my question. This a grand example of *some* people not being able to answer the most simple of questions without resorting to personal attacks. Or trying to.

    Thank you sonia for an intelligent reply. I understand what you are saying and I believe that it is very true that if all you use to make your decisions about who governs your country is your religious belief then we are in trouble. If every decision the President made was based soley on an answer to prayer, we would be in a world of trouble. Having those beliefs though hurts no one, and has actually been known to help people live through very rough times in their lives. Being a Christian and being a Jesus freak can be two very seperate things. I think it is equally sad that some people will vote for a politician based soley on what the person looks like, or the color of their skin, or soley the party they belong to.

    As someone pointed out to me today, the majority of Americans don’t know or care. The majority of voters don’t know the facts, they just vote.

    The problem is we can’t make them pass a test or anything before they can vote and the media does nothing but make issues more devisive.

    My original question I guess will never be answered.

  14. Ruth (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 6:55 pm

    You’re going to love me for this one: Separation of Church and State, you say? Hmmm. Lots of (I might add non-gay) people in my neck of the woods (LA) have been lamenting the across-the-boards defeat of the Gay Marriage issue, yet in the same breath they righteously rail against the breakdown of the separation of Church and State. Marriage is a RELIGIOUS institution, not a governmental process. Forcing the legality of any marriage is essentially unconstitutional, which is why it is (except in Mass) a non-issue. But saying so is (apparently) homophobic and evil.

    I’m thrilled that so many people are finally waking up and caring about the political process. Unfortunately, for most of them their overwhelming ignorance and lifetime of spoiled laziness means they immediately descend into name-calling and paranoia when – for once – all that happened is that they simply didn’t get their way.

    This was not a “close” election. The system works. Sometimes your guy wins, and sometimes the other guy wins. I wonder how many of you will bother to get or stay involved now and actually participate in what’s going to happen next, or if you will just whine and blog about it instead.

    Carry on….

  15. Sean Bonner (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:07 pm

    “I was asking why all the derision aimed at religion.”

    because that’s how comedy works smart guy. If you make fun of things that no one cares about, no one thinks it’s funny, if you make fun of things people care very strongly about a bunch of people will think it’s hillarous and another bunch will get flustered and start asking people to explain themselves.

    Good enough for you?

  16. Ruth (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:14 pm

    But Sean, isn’t it UNCOOL to be religious? Gosh we all want everyone to think we’re cool….

  17. Rick (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:24 pm

    Sean, again with the name calling? If all it was was a joke, then why the meandering attempt to twist the question around and the names and the attacks?

    I think Ruth is right. For some reason it is cool to be against religion. If you attack gay rights, then you are called a homophobe, if you criticize affirmative action you are called a racist. But if you make fun of someones religion, you are somehow cool, elite, and effused with wit. One of the popular liberals, I guess.

    I just asked why, and if the answer was “hey man, it was just a joke” then fine.

    I believe you.

  18. Ruth (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:29 pm

    The problem is people who condemn others for doing precisely what they do – only as Woody Allen said, “It’s okay, because I’m a bigot for the Left.”

  19. Ruth (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:34 pm

    Oh and before you dismiss me as “religious,” I will mix things up and tell you I’m a full-on atheist and a huge activist with regard to the separation of Church and State.

    What I’m not is a hypocrite or a busybody. I couldn’t care less what anyone else believes in. This country was founded by a bunch of religious kooks and will always be a haven for kooks of all varieties.

    For which I am immensely grateful.

  20. Ruth (unregistered) on November 4th, 2004 @ 7:47 pm

    Finally, I will saying that had Kerry won, you all would be gloating like kindergarteners, praising the wisdom of THESE SAME CITIZENS for stepping out of the darkness and overthrowing the Evil Bush, blah blah blah.

    You can’t have it both ways – either Americans are all stupid or they’re not.

    For all the complaining, it’s worth mentioning that the Democrats INVENTED voter fraud (I’m not even talking about JFK/Nixon – think back to Boss Tweed!) so bitching about it is at best ironic and in fact downright unseemly. (not to suggest I think Bush won by fraud because I absolutely don’t, either time)

    But gosh, learning about stuff like history would be SO Not Cool….

    And anyone who really wants to go to Canada please let me know. I will help you pack.

  21. CANADIAN (unregistered) on November 6th, 2004 @ 6:09 am

    I Do…Oh wait im already there, my doctors are worldclass and healthcare is free, my money is almost equal now to the US dollar (more 50 yrs ago lol) and NO I live in a house not an igloo…Does everyone in Texas ride horses and live on a plain. I think not. My country is as great as any other and please help all your democratic friends pack and come to CA, we love to have free thinking smart people come to our country. Please leave all the others behind as the terrorists need someone to hate and since BIG W started this mess in Iraq, let him finish it. Hey anyone ever heard of a guy named Osama, I think he attacked the states not Saddam. Wassup with that? Why not attack senegal next or bolivia, I think they were in cohoots with al-queda too, there is as much evidence as to support it for Iraq. LOL.

  22. CANADIAN (unregistered) on November 6th, 2004 @ 6:22 am

    Oh ya one more thing…As for the war on terror. I hear people bad mouth CA for not doing anything.

    Canada IS at war…we have several battalions in afganistan…remember the country that harboured the guys that really attacked the US. We sent none to Iraq as “W” picked that fight.

    As for the real terrorists in Afganistan and Osama…they can all die a horrible death. Canadians will be there to help you when you get back to the real war on terror(in afganistan not iraq). Just incase you are wondering, Canada is still serving in Afganistan to this day and will continue.

  23. Ruth (unregistered) on November 6th, 2004 @ 2:30 pm

    For the record, my complaints here are quite clear, and they are all about the whining brats on our side of the fence using their “moving to Canada” as some kind of threat to “us.”

    I never said anything good or bad about Canada. I hear it’s lovely.

  24. Cindy (unregistered) on November 8th, 2004 @ 3:07 am

    I’m from L.A. and you’re all crazy.

    RICK: The reason everyone is making fun of religion right now is because many people believe (as do I) that the record number of super conservative christians who came out to vote for Bush are the reason the election went the way it did. And yeah, we’re all going to make fun of them because it’s a good way to show our displeasure at the outcome of the election. Obviously we’re not talking about all religious people, and to think so is to be naive. Furthermore, what Sean is saying is lighten the F*CK up. I find it hilarious that you accuse him of calling names only AFTER you call his actions, and therefore him, immature, too cool, etc. There’s nothing wrong with religion. Nobody said that. It’s just funny. And one more thing. If a wiccans voted for Bush, I wouldn’t be celebrating anything but the fact that they will suffer three fold (or whatever it is) for all the lives lost in Iraq as a result of their decision. Oh yeah, and stop trying to sound smart. You only sound pretentious (ooh, I called you a NAME, damn I’m immature!)

    RUTH: What the homosexuals are railing is exactly what you are talking about. CHURCH AND STATE. I understand that marriage is a religious institution, but in this day and age it is obvious that people of all religious backgrounds (even us atheists) are getting married, and not because we’re religious, but because it’s a fairly normal thing to do, not to mention that it allows for more benefits for your significant other. So saying that changing the rules to allow for gay marriage is bringing together church and state at this point is ridiculous. They just want to be treated like people. The problem is that RELIGIOUS Right Wingers don’t want that, because that would bring down family values, which is absolutely unjustified, especially since the thing that makes gay people and their families feel out of place is the closed minds and hate from these religious groups. So they get their religious politicians to vote against it, and they get it banned. Let me ask you this: if the reason gay marriage is banned has nothing to do with religion, which is a blatant disregard of the separation of church and state, then WHY is gay marriage banned? If there’s another reason that has nothing to do with religion, I’d like to hear it. Otherwise, get off your BS highhorse, K?

    In any case, get the fuck over it. This is obviously a joke (have you seen the jokes republicans put out? Yeah, they do it to. Are they immature, or is it just us?) If you don’t get it then so sorry, but one of the things we’re supposedly killing innocent people for is freedom, and that includes freedom of speech, too.

  25. Rick (unregistered) on November 8th, 2004 @ 7:49 am

    Cindy, you guys have SUCH an issue reading for comprehension. If my expecting that is somehow “pretentious” then so be it. I won’t lower the bar. :-)

    I NEVER called anyone a name. I said that to make fun of someone religious beliefs was immature. Ruth said that making fun of religion was somehow cool, so I commented on that. I understand that the cartoon was a joke. I know that both sides joke around. I was just wondering why the left seems to eventually get around to ridiculing someone

  26. Cindy (unregistered) on November 8th, 2004 @ 12:41 pm

    Fuck, that’s really profound. You know you sound stupid, so just stop. Don’t try to reason out of it, because if you want to accuse people of misreading, then you are the most at fault for taking this joke completely out of context. So get over it.

    YOU SAID: It just seems narrowminded and hypocritical to me. Not to mention a tad immature.

    You are a snotty punk. Yeah, YOU HEARD ME!

  27. Rick (unregistered) on November 8th, 2004 @ 1:48 pm

    And I am sure you are a beautiful person Cindy, full of love for the world, happy to be an American. If you’d stop swearing long enough to read more than one paragraph, you’d have a clue.

    Really, if you clean your language up you might find you a good Republican man to settle down with. Make you happy all over. :-) Cheers!

  28. Jason (unregistered) on November 9th, 2004 @ 2:12 pm

    Some of you need to do a little more research on exactly what the seperation of church and state refers to. It does not come from a goverment policy but from a letter (I beleive by jefferson) in response to a minister who was concerned that the goverment would become involved in the running of the chuch (as in England at the time). In the letter the minister was reassured that there was a seperation of church and state and the goverment would stay out of the running of the church. It was only when an excuse was needed to remove prayer from schools that the meaning was twisted. Do your own research…

  29. salas (unregistered) on November 13th, 2004 @ 11:57 pm

    from the Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

    I think we’re getting dangerously close to making the morals and traditions of Christianity the law of the land.

  30. David Wozney (unregistered) on November 14th, 2004 @ 3:14 pm

    Is the “Jesus” of this so-called “Jesusland” the Jesus of the Jefferson Bible (also called “The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth Extracted Textually from the Gospels”)?

  31. David Wozney (unregistered) on November 15th, 2004 @ 9:30 pm

    Salas, New Testament Christian law, which people today are under, does not prescribe any specified penalty, punishment, or enforcement for violations of the laws of God before the end of the present church age.

  32. Rick (unregistered) on November 16th, 2004 @ 12:45 pm

    “I think we’re getting dangerously close to making the morals and traditions of Christianity the law of the land.”

    Or we are dangerously close to “prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. We aren’t there yet, but there are groups aplenty that would have all mentions of religion removed from all public places and activities. There has to be a balance between the two.

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